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ANOTHER Small Detail That Will Have To Be Sorted AHEAD Of Next Conclave — Vice-Camerlengo.


Click to ENLARGE & view here. Includes snippets from my ‘The Conclave‘ book.

With both my Christmas books done & PUBLISHED, I finally have some time on my hand. Wow. Nice feeling.

So, I decided to do some Pre-Conclave research.

Stumbled on what looks like an overlooked detail.

Currently Archbishop Ilson de JesusĀ Montanari is BOTH Vice-Camerlengo & Secretary to the Dicastery of Bishops. That is fine & dandy, UNTIL we have a conclave.

Then we have a slight problem. The Secretary to the Dicastery of Bishops, SINCE 1965, is AUTOMATICALLY chosen as the Secretary to the Conclave.

That is the problem.

He, the good Archbishop, can’t do both jobs come the conclave.

The Vice is NEVER a cardinal elector BECAUSE he has to stay outside.

The Secretary has to GO INSIDE. Can’t be BOTH inside & out.

NOT A HUGE problem.

The conclave duties of the VICE are pretty mundane. Supervise perimeter border security. They can just assign someone else to do that.

HE would want to be the SECRETARY — & thus be PART of the conclave. He could also potentially get a red hat for being secretary. So, he will ask to be secretary. The Camerlengo can sort that out, without a pope being around.

So, a small wrinkle. Nothing serious. Something to bear in mind come the inevitable sede vacante.


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IF The ‘Dean’ Was Precluded From Attending The Pre-Conclave ‘General Congregations’.

by Anura Guruge
on November 8, 2023


Click to ENLARGE & view here. ‘Page 156 ‘Appendix B‘ of MYThe Conclave‘ book.

Right now as I dealt with yesterday, the Vatican is denying — with unnecessary vehemence — that there are no moves afoot, whatsoever, to modify the Conclave protocols. This follows the speculations a few days earlier that ‘Pope Francis‘ planned to changes the rules for ‘General Congregations’ — in the MAIN to preclude the over-80, non-elector cardinals from participating. As I then pointed out, that this change would not be that drastic — though, of course, the over-80s would resent it bitterly.

But, I got thinking about this on my daily 4-mile ambles in the morning.

The only change of SOME CONSEQUENCE to such a change would be that the DEAN, if over 80, will no longer be able to Preside over the General Congregations (GCs) as he has always done — even after the over-80 rulings.

I have often wondered whether this was good or bad. This is one of the anomalies, albeit not that great, in the current set of protocols.

An over-80 Dean presides over GCs (& most other matters that involve the entire College), BUT is NOT permitted to attend the Conclave.

The supposed Francis change (if it holds water) will fix that.

There will be continuity if the Dean is over 80. The same Cardinal Bishop who will Preside over the Conclave will also preside over the GCs. In a way that is good.

The Dean (albeit these days elected for 5-year (renewable) terms) invariably (though no longer as a guarantee) has a ton of experience & expertise in Vatican/Church matters & will know how to get stuff done. In 2013, ‘Angelo Sodano‘, though over-80, played quite role in pre-conclave happenings.

The current Dean, who was the one that EXPERTLY RAN the 2013 Conclave, i.e., ‘Giovanni Battista Re‘, is now 89. So, if the rules are changed he will be sidelines.

But, this is ALL SPECULATION right now.

Plus, I am no longer convinced that we will be seeing a sede vacante anytime soon!


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