Tag Archives: 120 elector limit

‘Pope Francis’, Even With His New Cardinal Designates, Might Not Have Enough VOTES At The Next Conclave.

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by Anura Guruge
on July 20, 2023

Link to original at ‘National Catholic Reporter‘.
Link to ‘Vatican News’ post.
Click to ENLARGE. From one of my magic papal Excel spreadsheets.

NO, I don’t think he still has ENOUGH!

Let’s assume the conclave is in early December — though I am increasingly coming to the opinion that Pope Francis is the new ETERNAL POPE & will continue to dither along for another 3 or 4 years! He probably will need to live that long if he wants to make sure that the NEXT POPE will continue HIS AGENDA — i.e., be a ‘Francis II’ in terms of being PROGRESSIVE.

In December 2023 (IGNORING the 120 elector limit (as everyone seems to be doing)), there will be 134 electors. 98 will be Francis creations.

To attain the REQUISITE TWO-THIRDS majority (rounded up) you will need 89 votes.

So, it would appear that Francis should have enough votes.

I DOUBT IT.

It is unlikely that ALL 98 will VOTE for the same candidate. That is the problem.

45 in opposition (i.e., ONE-THIRD plus one (for safe measures)) can continually block an election EVEN after we go into the just 2-candidate RUNOFF process in the ‘second week‘ (10 to 13 days after the start of the conclave).

This could be quite the contentious conclave & we, for the first time, could see a conclave enter the RUNOFF process. Wow.

Stay TUNED.

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The TWO Things That ‘Pope Francis’ Should Do Now (IF He Has Any Sense) Now That He Has Designated 21 New Cardinals (To Be).

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by Anura Guruge
on July 9, 2023

Link to ‘Vatican News’ post.
Click to ENLARGE. From one of my magic papal Excel spreadsheets.

It was just a week ago, exactly, that I predicted that Francis really must hold another cardinal creating consistory. So, I was proved right.

I pointed out that given his track record (see above chart) that he will AGAIN exceed the 120 cardinal elector limit. He did. I thought he would exceed it by 10 or 12. I was wrong on that. He will exceed it by 17 THOUGH it drops to 16 the next day & will be down 12 by the end of the year (barring any deaths).

There are 2 very crucial things the pope needs to do, ASAP, to GUARANTEE that his plans are not derailed.

They are:

1/ Issue, at once, a 1-line motu proprio stating that the 120 elector limit no longer applies.

It will take, at most, 10 minutes of his time, if that.

It will avoid what could become an ANTIPOPE scenario! Maybe even a SCHISM by U.S. Catholics!

Unless he lifts that limit, it could always be argued, validly, that the Next Conclave was not legitimate — that it was a STOLEN ELECTION.

It is so easy to avoid this.

That he continues to ignore this key issue & continues to dither is just another poor reflection of his character, competency & acumen.

2/ File at once, given his precarious health, an affidavit with the Vatican curial ‘Secretariat of Briefs‘ stating that all 21 designees have already been made cardinals in a secret/private consistory.

Then it does NOT matter if the September 30, 2023, consistory never takes place.

The document can be published so that the cardinals can come forward & take their place .

Perfectly, perfectly legal.

I have already talked about this, so I won’t rehash it — just give you this link.

Snapshot & Analysis Of Pope Francis’ 8 Cardinal Creating Consistories To-Date.

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by Anura Guruge
on July 2, 2023

Click to ENLARGE. From one of my magic papal Excel spreadsheets.

A year ago I did not think Pope Francis has the strength or energy, but I have had to reassess my position though he is, obviously, older & sicker than he was last year.

Basically, he does not have a choice.

He really needs to hold another cardinal creating consistory SOON. Given his health he might be forced to do it as early as August — which was when we had last.

Ideally, he would try to push it back till November. Then a couple more electors would have aged out.

I wanted to show you this analysis BEFORE I did any other posts. That way it will be easier for you to follow my rationales.

Pay particular attention to how he has ALWAYS exceeded the {now} SUPPOSED 120 elector limit. Appreciating this is key. I think at the next one he will blow past his previous highs and appoint as many as 10 or 12 ABOVE the 120 limit. OK?

Study this. I will refer to it in my subsequent posts.